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for a guy like me trying to build a homestead on raw land I need to watch every penny because I still have a long way to go and a lot of expenses yet to come. so for mean the prebuilt clone/knock off or the parts kit could enable me to get a nice powerful saw that really could do the work well without breaking the bank. Otherwise you are going to be bogging down a lot, and of course putting a lot more wear on the saw. But really to do the work of chainsaw milling, you want as high power as you can go really. I would get as low as I could but still within the recommendations for milling (over 50cc typically) because the prices go up more powerful they are. Because that is the rub, if I only had brand name options I would opt to get a lower cc saw than the 660 clone/knock off. So for chainsaw milling would I be better served trying out one of these clone/knock offs than dumping the money into a saw not nearly as powerful but higher priced. Especially since I am planning on working on chainsaw milling timber on my property this year. But now I am looking at needing to buy a new 2nd saw. Thankfully I had a spare to keep the loss from being dire. I just had one of my Stihl saws stolen off my property this fall.

So for a homesteader who might want to get a chance to use one of these saws, or have limited use for such a powerful saw but an immediate need, a cheap option that could get them a saw they might not be able to afford otherwise could be highly useful.įor me for example. Other wise these folks said these saws were impressive and built near enough to the brand names to be reliable. A few serious chainsaw guys who were big into modding their saws with AM parts said that a literal handful of parts would be best swapped with alternate AM parts or OEM (Original equipment manufacture) parts of the saw it was a clone/knock off of. However investigating these saws on youtube (though only for 2-3hrs last night) I saw over and over unbiased reviews of these saying that they were decent quality. (there are youtube video playlists of builds from these kits, before buying a kit I suggest watching and making sure you know what your getting into)īut of course you and I immediately say, "but the quality just can't be there, these have to suck bad to be that cheap" Normally you and I would be very right. You could practically get 10 for the price of 1. Under $150 compared to $1200 and up for the brand name. That is a huge price difference for anyone who can put together a chainsaw from parts. The parts kit have all the parts you need to build the entire saw (minus bar and chain) On the Farmertec site these run $148 to $144 depending on if you want the matching Stihl orange color or the blue not Stihl color. Now the price difference gets even bigger, you can buy the clone/knock offs all nice and assembled (minus bar and chain), or you can buy a parts kit. The Stihl MS660 runs $600 and up used and $1200 and up new. For those who don't know a MS660 is a big powerful 90+cc saw. What got me interested in the 1st video I saw about these was the Stihl MS660 clone/knock off from the video was said to be under $300 (I found it priced at $360 without bar and chain so I think that video price was out of date). Well price is the the big deal as well as actually fairly decent quality according to many unbiased folks reviewing and discussing these on youtube. Now what is the big deal about these saws? I did a google search of "permies farmertec" and found nothing coming up linking to this forum, so figured let me share what I have found about these with my permies friends They sell after market (AM) parts and yes complete clone/knock offs of both Stihl and Husqvarna saws.Īs well as on Amazon (though prices tend to be higher here and less inventory) The company is called Farmtec and the brand is Holzfforma. We can get down to the business of discussing these chainsaws I found out about. Ok now that is gotten out of the way, and hopefully those who don't want to get angry by seeing clone/knock offs of brand name stuff have left.

Other wise you will likely get pretty annoyed with what comes further along. If you are a super fan and extremely brand loyal these definitely aren't your cup of tea, in fact I would suggest you just stop reading right here.

Hey folks I just discovered these last night and did a little research but not overly too much.